Just wondering what the rest of Smash thinks about TNA. The bad things and the good things, just anything going on in TNA, good or bad.
Cheers.
What is wrong and what is right about TNA?
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Good: X-division and their tag divison.
Bad: Pushing of old WWE stars at the expense of up & coming talent.
mmmm, sounds a bit familiar.
Bad: Pushing of old WWE stars at the expense of up & coming talent.
mmmm, sounds a bit familiar.
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Re: What is wrong and what is right about TNA?
MarkFromGoldenplec on Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:48 pm
ShowStealer wrote:Good: X-division and their tag divison.
Bad: Pushing of old WWE stars at the expense of up & coming talent.
mmmm, sounds a bit familiar.
WWE now?
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MarkFromGoldenplec wrote:ShowStealer wrote:Good: X-division and their tag divison.
Bad: Pushing of old WWE stars at the expense of up & coming talent.
mmmm, sounds a bit familiar.
WWE now?
Nah, WWE haven't had a good tag division in years!
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WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?! 
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
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Re: What is wrong and what is right about TNA?
MarkFromGoldenplec on Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:48 pm
Garibaldi wrote:MarkFromGoldenplec wrote:ShowStealer wrote:Good: X-division and their tag divison.
Bad: Pushing of old WWE stars at the expense of up & coming talent.
mmmm, sounds a bit familiar.
WWE now?
Nah, WWE haven't had a good tag division in years!
I ment more the bad bit, the good in WWE now is midcarders having great matches (x division), the bad is exactly the bad up there ^^
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WWE haven't had a good tag division since the 90's. And I think it was ShowStealer who mentioned that TNA push old WWE talent. TNA will never be able to get into competition with WWE when still using Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner and possibly Booker T in the main event.
The X Division is awesome, in my book and I suppose the reverse matches aren't exactly winning anyone over. WWE has a solid midcard level, but Shelton Benjiman should have gotten a push years ago. Kofi Kingston is the same, he is going to be a midcarder for life, he never got any momentum he deserved after the WrestleMania performance he put on, he got jobbed out to Big Show the following week on SmackDown!. I know, it's Big Show and WWE have to make him effective by squashing thing infront of him, besides Taker, but for goodness sake, give Kofi something.
I think it begs the question, what are WWE going to do with there young-midcard talent, push them or job them out to Khali, Henry and Show every week.
The X Division is awesome, in my book and I suppose the reverse matches aren't exactly winning anyone over. WWE has a solid midcard level, but Shelton Benjiman should have gotten a push years ago. Kofi Kingston is the same, he is going to be a midcarder for life, he never got any momentum he deserved after the WrestleMania performance he put on, he got jobbed out to Big Show the following week on SmackDown!. I know, it's Big Show and WWE have to make him effective by squashing thing infront of him, besides Taker, but for goodness sake, give Kofi something.
I think it begs the question, what are WWE going to do with there young-midcard talent, push them or job them out to Khali, Henry and Show every week.
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ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
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I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
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ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
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'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Then they have to throw everyone back out.
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'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
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ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
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'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
Isn't it Russo who comes up with these ideas?
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ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Great link, fella. Just brings up a small alert in Chinese
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Garibaldi wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Great link, fella. Just brings up a small alert in Chinese
Snooze, you lose!
I guess it was to do with Rusco
That was the first time I saw the match, it wasn't too bad for a battle royal...
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Screwjob97 wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
Isn't it Russo who comes up with these ideas?
He isn't the only member of the creative team.
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'Dub wrote:Screwjob97 wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
Isn't it Russo who comes up with these ideas?
He isn't the only member of the creative team.
That's true. But he is most recgonised for having bad or not very good creative ideas, isn't he?
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Screwjob97 wrote:'Dub wrote:Screwjob97 wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
Isn't it Russo who comes up with these ideas?
He isn't the only member of the creative team.
That's true. But he is most recgonised for having bad or not very good creative ideas, isn't he?
He's responsible for Austin vs McMahon, Kane vs Undertaker, DX, etc, so his ideas aren't entirely bad...
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Russo's only really bad when he's calling the ideas himself, like in WCW in 99/2000. Austin v McMahon was his idea but heavily controlled by Austin and McMahon themselves.
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A lot of people have jumped on the anti-Russo bandwagon, mainly thanks to the internet. Now I'm not the biggest of Russo fans and a lot of his mistakes are hilarious, but how many companies have a single writer in sole control? He had some great ideas in WWF and he was also responsible for giving Booker T the strap. There was no one in WCW who deserved the belt more than Booker, and I included the radicals in that assessment. It takes guts to make a decision like that within the Time-Warner AOL corporate structure. He also gave Lance Storm the biggest push he had in his career. If you appreciate the stress he was under to get ratings that week, rather than a long term goal to steadily improve you'll give him a lot more respect likewise Bischoff who is one of the best bookers of all time. WWE wouldn't exist now if Rusco (or someone else) wasn't there to stop there predictable bad guy beats on good guy who then makes a comeback formula. 
Did you know that that crash helmet he used to wear wasn't a gimmick?
Did you know that that crash helmet he used to wear wasn't a gimmick?
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Where's Russo Mark when you need him?
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Shaun2J wrote:Where's Russo Mark when you need him?
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I never knew that Russo was responsible for everything the Stig had written and also I never knew what ShowStealer said about the Booker T push I never thought it was Russo who gave Booker the push, I figured everything in WCW was done by Eric Bishoff.
I agree with OutLaw2x4's point. That Russo,in 199 in WCW, wasn't great.
I guess I was harsh to Vince Russo.
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I agree with OutLaw2x4's point. That Russo,in 199 in WCW, wasn't great.
I guess I was harsh to Vince Russo.
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'Dub wrote:Screwjob97 wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:'Dub wrote:ShowStealer wrote:I gather you're asking because you don't think it could be the obvious, throwing someone in to the ring! Surely it can't be that stupid! But sadly it is!Xander wrote:ShowStealer wrote:WWE now? When have they ever had a good cruiseweight division?!
Also for bad add that they have matches with stupid rules, like the king of the mountain and the reverse battle royal...
whats a reverse battle royal?
The king of the mountain match involves a 2 minute sin bin and mounting the title on to a hook! It's actually not that bad but feels more like a Japanese game show than a wrestling match.
No, it's trying to get into the ring.
Not seen it before? TNA love their backwards ideas. King of the Mountain is essentially a reverse ladder match.
Isn't it Russo who comes up with these ideas?
He isn't the only member of the creative team.
Dub, that is true.