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    Shaun2J

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    The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Shaun2J on Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:34 am

    The content and cover have been released.


    Silvervision.co.uk

    Content:

    Documentaries:
    Jim Crockett Promotions
    Georgia Championship Wrestling
    Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling
    Black Saturday
    The Expansion
    Crockett Sells to Turner
    Greatest Talent in the World
    New Management
    Bill Watts Era
    Bill Shaw Hires Eric Bischoff
    Hulk Hogan Arrives
    Nitro Debuts
    nWo
    Cruiserweights
    Goldberg
    WCW Ratings Champ
    Celebrities
    Goldberg vs. Hogan
    Mistakes Begin
    Vince Russo
    A Corporate Merger
    McMahon buys WCW
    Legacy of WCW

    Bonus Features
    • Lost in Cleveland (Cactus Jack vignette)
    • Bill Watts Defends Himself
    • Spam Man
    • The Origin of Goldberg
    • Bischoff Gives Away RAW Results

    Matches

    $1,000 Challenge Match
    Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A.
    NWA World Championship Wrestling – June 15, 1985

    Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (w/ JJ Dillon)
    The Main Event – April 3, 1988

    United States Championship Match
    Dusty Rhodes vs. Barry Windham
    Great American Bash – July 10, 1988

    NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
    Chi-Town Rumble – February 20, 1989

    The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express vs. The Midnight Express
    Wrestle War – February 25, 1990

    NWA United States Tag Team Championship Match
    The Midnight Express vs. The Southern Boys
    Great American Bash – July 7, 1990

    WCW World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
    SuperBrawl – May 19, 1991

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Sting vs. Big Van Vader
    Great American Bash – July 12, 1992

    WCW International World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Rick Rude vs. Sting
    Spring Stampede – April 17, 1994

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan
    Bash at the Beach – July 17, 1994

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. The Giant
    Nitro – April 29, 1996

    WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
    Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko
    Clash of the Champions XXXIII – August 15, 1996

    War Games Match
    Team WCW- Sting, Lex Luger, Ric Fair & Arn Anderson vs. Team n.W.o.- Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & a Mystery Partner
    Fall Brawl – September 15, 1996

    United States Championship Ladder Match
    Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
    Souled Out – January 25, 1997

    United States Championship No Disqualification Match
    Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko
    Uncensored – March 16, 1997

    WCW Cruiserweight Championship Title vs. Mask Match
    Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera
    SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

    WCW Unified World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders
    SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

    Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman
    Bash at the Beach – July 12, 1998

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page
    Halloween Havoc – October 25, 1998

    WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Booker T vs. Lance Storm
    Nitro – August 7, 2000

    Source: pwinsider.com


    Might consider getting this.


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    showstealer

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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  showstealer on Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:44 am

    Documents?

    All the matches from the 90s on that list I've already seen. cool v

    United States Championship Ladder Match
    Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
    Souled Out – January 25, 1997

    This is from the NWO PPV, where Eddy is announced as that Mexican Jumping Bean and Bischoff, & DiBiase (I think) are doing commentary, the outsiders may also have commentated! Great times Very Happy
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    Outlaw2x4

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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:55 am

    Oh man I cannot wait for this DVD. I cant wait to see the "Bill Watts defends himself" segment!
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  KabukiJoe on Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:26 pm

    When's it getting released? Might have to have a look at this.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Bradshaw101 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:28 am

    I'll probably get this but with virtually everyone from the "Fall" period either in TNA or refusing to cooperate, this could turn into a Warrior-level hatchet job. Still, the matches look good.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:07 am

    The have loads of old interviews like with bischoff and such. But none of them are very in depth.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Bradshaw101 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:04 pm

    KabukiJoe wrote:When's it getting released? Might have to have a look at this.

    Silvervision have it set for release direct from them in October, but it won't be in shops until 2010.

    Outlaw - yeah, they have the older interviews, but he did turn down doing new interviews for this DVD, specifically noting that he wasn't going to be "part of WWE rewriting history", which is probably a bad sign.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:36 pm

    Bradshaw101 wrote:
    KabukiJoe wrote:When's it getting released? Might have to have a look at this.

    Silvervision have it set for release direct from them in October, but it won't be in shops until 2010.

    Outlaw - yeah, they have the older interviews, but he did turn down doing new interviews for this DVD, specifically noting that he wasn't going to be "part of WWE rewriting history", which is probably a bad sign.

    Yeah I know. They also tried to talk to Ted Turner, but he refused too. Its a shame, I've always wanted to hear Turners view on the wars. Pretty surprising that they got Bill Goldberg though!
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  The Phenom on Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:41 am

    Just bought and watched this yesterday. It's pretty good, plenty of good matches on it too. WWE was pretty clever to get some of the interviews they did (Bischoff and Hall back in 2002/2003), but there are obviously some people you'd like to hear from (Nash and Russo mainly). They really do trash Kevin Nash in this. Overall it's entertaining, but not much you didn't already know.

    That being said, when they are talking about the collapse of WCW and why it all went south, they really could have been talking about the current WWE product. The similarities are scary.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:32 am

    I liked the documentary up until the fall. I really think they didn't cover that well at all. There wasn't a single mention of how bad the buyrates were in late 99 and 2000, or how truly ridicluous the booking became, or why Bischoff was removed in 99. They blame all the bad booking on Russo, and make no mention of all the idiotic things that bischoff did in 98 and 99. They even dedicate a 10 minute segment to the Dennis Rodman appearance, and fail to mention his no shows, and the whole falling asleep during a match thing. That just kinda annoyed me.

    That being said I loved Mike Graham trashing Jeff Jarrett:

    "He broke 6000 guitars and he never drew a dime! He really thought in his little Tennessee brain that he was gonna be bigger than Hogan!"
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  showstealer on Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:00 am

    I thought it was very good, far better than the death of WCW book which poked fun at the company more than explain why things were going wrong and the Monday night wars dvd which was a pathetic victory dance. The significance of Halloween Havoc '98 getting cut off at the start of the main event never dawned on me until I saw this. I'm glad that they really put Bischoff over this time, perhaps now with hindsight the WWE executive can really see what miracles he worked there I thought the segment at the start about the previous VPs really emphasised it. Of cause they also mentioned Bischoff's short failings that we know to well, failing to push other talent, getting obsessed with the ratings and giving the book to Nash (I've rewatched some old Nitros recently and personally I think the finger poke of doom could have worked if they didn't make Goldberg look so weak, at that time the NWO really had to start losing. The Nitro following the finger poke Goldberg wasn't even on the show, instead he did a back stage segment plotting revenge on Hall when really he should of cleaned house and gone after the title. I also quite controversially believe that the streak ended in the correct way and the correct time!).

    I thought they brushed Rusco off as a mistake and his wacky ideas were already covered in the Monday night wars, although David Arquette's title reign was mentioned, I don't think they needed to go in to too much detail, as Flair said the company should have gone a year before it did. The whole invasion angle was skipped, I wonder why! I was quite surprised how at the end they mentioned how weak the current product is without competition. I was even more surprised to hear Goldberg refer to the crusierweights as the best thing on the show! Very Happy

    Very highly rated by me, and I'm probably the biggest WCW mark on the forum! If I was a neutral I would put it on par with the rise and fall of ECW.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  DX-Superkick on Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:01 am

    ShowStealer wrote:I thought it was very good, far better than the death of WCW book which poked fun at the company more than explain why things were going wrong and the Monday night wars dvd which was a pathetic victory dance. The significance of Halloween Havoc '98 getting cut off at the start of the main event never dawned on me until I saw this. I'm glad that they really put Bischoff over this time, perhaps now with hindsight the WWE executive can really see what miracles he worked there I thought the segment at the start about the previous VPs really emphasised it. Of cause they also mentioned Bischoff's short failings that we know to well, failing to push other talent, getting obsessed with the ratings and giving the book to Nash (I've rewatched some old Nitros recently and personally I think the finger poke of doom could have worked if they didn't make Goldberg look so weak, at that time the NWO really had to start losing. The Nitro following the finger poke Goldberg wasn't even on the show, instead he did a back stage segment plotting revenge on Hall when really he should of cleaned house and gone after the title. I also quite controversially believe that the streak ended in the correct way and the correct time!).

    What was the problem...
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  showstealer on Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:08 pm

    DX-Superkick wrote:
    ShowStealer wrote:I thought it was very good, far better than the death of WCW book which poked fun at the company more than explain why things were going wrong and the Monday night wars dvd which was a pathetic victory dance. The significance of Halloween Havoc '98 getting cut off at the start of the main event never dawned on me until I saw this. I'm glad that they really put Bischoff over this time, perhaps now with hindsight the WWE executive can really see what miracles he worked there I thought the segment at the start about the previous VPs really emphasised it. Of cause they also mentioned Bischoff's short failings that we know to well, failing to push other talent, getting obsessed with the ratings and giving the book to Nash (I've rewatched some old Nitros recently and personally I think the finger poke of doom could have worked if they didn't make Goldberg look so weak, at that time the NWO really had to start losing. The Nitro following the finger poke Goldberg wasn't even on the show, instead he did a back stage segment plotting revenge on Hall when really he should of cleaned house and gone after the title. I also quite controversially believe that the streak ended in the correct way and the correct time!).

    What was the problem...
    The fans demanded refunds, it costed them millions and alerted the network to how poorly the company was run.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  DX-Superkick on Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:03 pm

    ShowStealer wrote:The fans demanded refunds, it costed them millions and alerted the network to how poorly the company was run.

    Why though, more detail. chin ponder
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  showstealer on Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:04 am

    DX-Superkick wrote:
    ShowStealer wrote:The fans demanded refunds, it costed them millions and alerted the network to how poorly the company was run.

    Why though, more detail. chin ponder
    The Time Warner executives unlike Turner were a bit embarrassed that wrestling was on their network. The AOL executives also felt this way and as the merger of the two in 2000 resulted in serious losses, which are commonplace today in the recession but a rarity during the economic boom of the time. The cut down on the companies losses they got rid of the money draining wcw by selling it cheaply, even though wrestling has historically been able to draw massive ratings and the company was in just as bad a state or even a worse state at the start of the previous decade. Ultimately as soon as Turner merged with Time Warner and the ratings started to fall, WCW's time was up.
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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  Garibaldi on Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:18 pm

    Didn't they end up screening the match on Nitro instead, which led to even more complaints from the people who paid that those who didn't got to see it?


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    Re: The Rise and Fall of WCW

    Post  showstealer on Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:48 pm

    Garibaldi wrote:Didn't they end up screening the match on Nitro instead, which led to even more complaints from the people who paid that those who didn't got to see it?
    yep. Sad

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