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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:54 pm

    Well looks like Obama's going to run away with it at this point.

    At this point I made a stupid lameass joke and I'm sorry


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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:40 pm

    Out of order JK.

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    Post  Guest on Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:49 pm

    Yeah. Seemed funny at the time. Now it isn't. I retract it.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:50 am

    Nice one JK, it takes a man to admit they were wrong.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:59 am

    Well, tis the day before the election and Phenom's nowhere to be seen. Could he be out doing some last minute campaigning?

    So all you lovely American smashers... who's it going to be?
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  The Phenom on Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:49 pm

    I am here. McCain is my prediction. I feel that the polls are off and that Obama will have trouble in the traditional red states that show him leading. I do believe it will be very close, but that McCain will win. It's a gut feeling.

    And as a member of the military I can't campaign really. Conflict of interest. Although my opinion hasn't changed, nor has my passion.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  The Stig on Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:59 pm

    I can't wait for this to end, just so all the fucking news coverage stops.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  KabukiJoe on Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:44 pm

    Me too.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  ThatChumpStain on Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:55 pm

    The Phenom wrote:I am here. McCain is my prediction. I feel that the polls are off and that Obama will have trouble in the traditional red states that show him leading. I do believe it will be very close, but that McCain will win. It's a gut feeling.

    And as a member of the military I can't campaign really. Conflict of interest. Although my opinion hasn't changed, nor has my passion.
    Obama's mine, I was watching something today on the BBC about how in Virginia (traditionally a Republican state) that the polls had Obama just 0.3% behind McCain and I just found that interesting. If I remember right then even with it being so close but McCain winning by that small margin then he would get all the college (I think they're called that) votes for that state, right? Do you think that system's fair or do you think a total number of votes nation-wide would be better? What are the pros and cons of each do you feel?
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  DougFlair on Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:04 pm

    The advantage of the electoral college is that living in a smaller state like Vermont, we almost never see any presidential candidates, but we would probably never see them if it were not for the electoral college.

    With a straight "Popular vote" type system, all that a candidate really has to do in order to win is get the big cities, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, etc. There would be very little point in them running in any smaller states.

    John McCain was campaigning in New Hampshire this weekend, which shows you how important a small state can be.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:16 pm

    Not too different from over here. In the UK we have constituencies where people vote for which party they want to represent their area. The winning party's representative then receives a seat in the House of Commons in London.

    On paper the Queen can then choose whoever she wants to be Prime Minister, but convention dictates that she picks the leader of the party who holds the most seats. The leader then forms the cabinet and the government.

    Because each and every seat counts, they have to campaign hard everywhere, particularly in the so called "swing" seats.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:22 pm

    The Stig wrote:I can't wait for this to end, just so all the fucking news coverage stops.
    I think it's been fascinating.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:18 am

    ShowStealer wrote:
    The Stig wrote:I can't wait for this to end, just so all the fucking news coverage stops.
    I think it's been fascinating.

    Agreed, although if I have to hear John McCain or Sarah Palin say a variation of the phrase "I am a great American" once more I can guarantee he won't be president because I will fly over there and beat him to death with a dictionary. Boring odious people the pair of them epitomising the American stereotype that we all hate.

    I have a selfish reason for wanting Obama to win which is a years old bet with my father for (I think) 100 where I bet there would be a black president before a woman president. Twisted Evil
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Mtank325 on Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:38 pm

    I voted McCain although really, either candidate suits me. I've always liked McCain's moderate take on most subjects, per example the 1996 Telecommunications Act when I first heard about him. However his views on the war made me almost go the Kerry route again just because I thought a vote against Bush is vote against the war.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  disco stu on Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:07 pm

    Goodbye Mr Bush dont let the door knock you on the way out.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:02 pm

    If you listen very closely you can hear 6 million rednecks weeping...
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:17 pm

    I think either would of been a good choice.

    Congrats Obama.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:23 pm

    Wow. Phenom's prediction (and mine) was way off. Obama won by a country mile! 338 votes to 159 and still counting! McCain's won hardly any since the victory was announced!
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:55 pm

    As many commentators have said, it's a great statement of progress that neither candidate made race a major issue in this election.

    Well done to both parties on that, and well done to Obama on his victory.


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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Dr Hellwig PhD on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:44 am

    I must admit, as an outside observer I did want Obama to win particularly after visiting Chicago in June this year.

    But it has to be said, I think McCain has shown an awful lot of class in his defeat
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:06 am

    When Obama mentioned McCain in his speech the people gave a light but gracious applause, when McCain mentioned Obama, the people booed. Shows the difference between them if you ask me.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:12 am

    Outlaw2x4 wrote:When Obama mentioned McCain in his speech the people gave a light but gracious applause, when McCain mentioned Obama, the people booed. Shows the difference between them if you ask me.
    It shows the difference between their audience and nothing else. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:24 am

    ShowStealer wrote:
    Outlaw2x4 wrote:When Obama mentioned McCain in his speech the people gave a light but gracious applause, when McCain mentioned Obama, the people booed. Shows the difference between them if you ask me.
    It shows the difference between their audience and nothing else. Rolling Eyes

    Thats what I meant.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:46 am

    It's always far easier to be gracious in victory though. Probably would have happened if the reverse result had come through.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:55 am

    JK wrote:It's always far easier to be gracious in victory though. Probably would have happened if the reverse result had come through.

    That is true I suppose, but nobody likes to see a bitter losing side. That being said McCain speech was very well said.

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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  Guest on Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:01 am

    For old times' sake, yahoo's top 20 Bushisms:

    20. "Those who enter the country illegally violate the law." - Nov. 28, 2005

    19. "We don't believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans." - Sept. 6, 2000

    18. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - Dec. 19, 2000

    17. "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's trustworthiness." - Aug. 30, 2000

    16. "I think we agree, the past is over." - May 10, 2000

    15. "I understand small business growth. I was one." - Feb. 19, 2000

    14. "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." - April 23, 2002

    13. "I want everybody to hear loud and clear that I'm going to be the president of everybody." - Jan. 18, 2001

    12. "One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." - Jan. 3, 2000

    11. "I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will." - Oct. 5, 2002

    10. "I just want you to know that when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." - June 18, 2002

    9. "I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein." - May 25, 2004

    8. "I firmly believe the death tax is good for people from all walks of life all throughout our society." - Aug. 13, 2002

    7. "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again." - Sept. 17, 2002

    6. "The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." - Oct. 8, 2004

    5. "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." - Sept. 29, 2000

    4. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - Aug. 5, 2004

    3. "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" - Jan. 11, 2000

    2. "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." - Jan. 27, 2000

    1. "They misunderestimated me." - Nov. 6, 2000
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    Well, I won't be missing that clown.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:41 am

    JK wrote:6. "The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." - Oct. 8, 2004
    My head hurts.

    I may produce a list of Pardewishs in the next few days. Evil or Very Mad
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  disco stu on Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:45 am

    Lets leave the Republic bashing behind now. It doesnt benefit anyone. We're living in the final act of Return of The Jedi now. Lets just hope that this movement makes the world a better place.
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  showstealer on Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:53 am

    disco stu wrote:Lets leave the Republic bashing behind now. It doesnt benefit anyone. We're living in the final act of Return of The Jedi now. Lets just hope that this movement makes the world a better place.
    This hurts my head even, I assume you've posted on the wrong thread?! Suspect
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    Re: American Election thread

    Post  disco stu on Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:57 am

    Im just saying, the boo's in McCain's speach the bush jokes just let them go there's no need anymore.

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