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    Dr Hellwig PhD

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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Dr Hellwig PhD on Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:51 am

    Not specifically RAW related but since we were discussing the Draft in here... According to 411 this is the outcome of the supplemental draft (can't check WWE at work - swimwear/lingerie block apparently...) so don't blame me if it's wrong!

    • Ken Kennedy: Drafted from Smackdown to Raw
      Shad Gaspard: Drafted from Raw to Smackdown
      Alicia Fox: Drafted from ECW to Smackdown
      Primo Colon (Current Unified Tag Team champion): Drafted from Smackdown to Raw
      Mike Knox: Drafted from Raw to Smackdown


    Another pointless set of supplemental moves then!

    No problems with Kennedy as I've never rated him anyway; Alicia Fox and Mike Knox - couldn't care less about either (although a Knox 'n' Fox Connection team-up would be worth it for the name alone) which just leaves Shad (who's gash) and Primo.

    I don't get it.

    Over the course of the draft they've split up three tag teams (they only have like five so it's hardly rocket science to keep some together) AND they went to the trouble of giving the Colons a decent rub by putting them over Morrison & Miz only to effectively split them up and make the whole thing UTTERLY POINTLESS!!!

    Ugh. Why do I bother with this shit anymore?
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  The Stig on Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:21 am

    Pick #1: Raw selects Mr. Kennedy
    Pick #2: SmackDown selects Shad Gaspard
    Pick #3: SmackDown selects Alicia Fox
    Pick #4: Raw selects Primo
    Pick #5: SmackDown selects Mike Knox
    Pick #6: ECW selects Ezekiel Jackson
    Pick #7: Raw selects Nikki Bella
    Pick #8: Smackdown selects Candice Michelle
    Pick #9: ECW selects Zack Ryder
    Pick #10: Raw selects Chavo Guerrero
    Pick #11: Smackdown selects Ricky Ortiz
    Pick #12: Smackdown selects Layla
    Pick #13: Raw selects Hornswoggle
    Pick #14: ECW selects DH Smith
    Pick #15: Smackdown selects John Morrison
    Pick #16: Raw selects Carlito
    Pick #17: ECW selects Natalya
    Pick #18: Raw selects Festus
    Pick #19: Smackdown selects JTG
    Pick #20: Smackdown selects Dolph Ziggler
    Pick #21: Raw selects The Brian Kendrick
    Pick #22: Smackdown selects Charlie Haas
    Pick #23: ECW selects Hurricane Helms
    Pick #24: Raw selects Brie Bella
    ---END OF DRAFT---
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:03 pm

    The "negativity" that you see, Stig, was more towards the lack of established main evvent talent on one show when they haven't room to use everything they've got on the other. It just really stinks of bad planning. I agree entirely about the return of the "Smackdown 6" style era, especially if the gamble pays off. It's just that if you compare main events like HHH v Cena to Jeff v Y2J, the latter may be more fresh and watchable, but it won't stand out as a money match on the card. THAT'S my concern. Plus the fact that we KNOW Raw is the A show, but everey year or so they try to play the pair off against each other and convince you that it's a fair battle.

    As I've commented in a few places, the "just short of the main event" group is Smackdown's advantage - there are so many guys they can push there, and the switch of Morrison for Kenedy doesn't hurt that much either - but that is then offset by the insistence of giving 10-15 minutes of each show to the archived matches they show. That's another good little match in there...give Haas v Morrison or Rey v Punk 10 minutes to show wat they can do.

    I am intrigued by the Smith + Natalya to ECW though to join Kidd. Possible stable?


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:16 am

    DH Smith must be the first drafted superstar to never appear on the previous show.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:54 pm

    Kennedy came close too, didn't he?


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:38 am

    Yeah but he actually wrestled a few matches before injuring himself yet again.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  showstealer on Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:02 am

    Anyone else going tonight? Smile
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  showstealer on Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:24 pm

    Was a good show tonight, the Santino segment was fantastic and HHH V Orton was better than their Wrestlemania match. Shame about the amount of kids there though, they prevented me from fulfilling a dream of shouting paedophile at Lawler and gave me a headache with all their screaming.

    They filmed superstars after Raw, all 2 matches off it! Very Happy Even better, the kids/parents didn't realise their was another show and fucked off!!!Very Happy:D:D

    The ending of the Punk v Kane match had to be redone (so much for being an indy superstar...) & there were 2 dark matches, Regal beating Dolph Zigler and Cena retaining his title against Edge.

    Have to admit to not liking the TV aspect and prefer indy shows as a result, perhaps I would enjoy a PPV, summerslam is in LA this year and I've got a lot of friends out there.... chin ponder
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Bradshaw101 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:43 am

    STEAMBOAT V JERICHO AT BACKLASH! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    ... and now I remember that I don't hae Sky Sports 1, so I can't see it. Bugger.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  showstealer on Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:52 am

    I think Steamboat is going to make a minor comeback! Hopefully he won't go overboard as there was a reason for him retiring in the first place!

    Shame the Great Khali kiss is going to be a PPV now and not on Smackdown.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Tue May 05, 2009 9:00 am

    Did anyone see the Chavo/Santino segment? Laughing Laughing
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  The Ayatollah on Wed May 06, 2009 1:20 am

    I did Shaun...twas very funny

    Santino noticing Chavo...."Oooh Chavo...dun dun dun.."


    Laughing Laughing
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  ThatChumpStain on Thu May 07, 2009 2:26 pm

    search on youtube for 1mandynasty466, keeps ECW, Raw & Smackdown on there, or 1mandynastyppv for, well, ppv's.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQudK5qAyU The Santino segment.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Fri May 08, 2009 6:27 am

    Yeah already watch the shows from his account.

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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Ram Jam on Wed May 13, 2009 2:03 am

    Man, Raw hasn't been too good lately. Not a lot of wrestling on it anymore, and the stuff we do get are like 2 minute matches with Carlito vs. Kendrick, and like 3 other matches at around like 5 minutes. The Orton/McMahons feud is starting to feel a little long and it feels like it's run its course.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:25 am

    Raw was interesting last night. I hope sky sports don't take ad breaks next week either.

    And why was MVP wearing a Man United Jersey?
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Bradshaw101 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:21 am

    The no ad breaks thing was a one off. There were no breaks on the US broadcast either.

    Donald Trump as the new owner of Raw is... interesting.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Outlaw2x4 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:46 am

    Anyone notice Punk had Misawa on his taped up arm last night?
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:42 am

    Haha, Trump the ower of RAW? He's probably gonna appear next week and then give a handfull of taped satellite appearances.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  'Dub on Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:05 am

    Bradshaw101 wrote:There were no breaks on the US broadcast either.

    I thought that was next week?
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  The Stig on Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:39 pm

    'Dub wrote:
    Bradshaw101 wrote:There were no breaks on the US broadcast either.

    I thought that was next week?

    It is, but Bradshaw101 thinks he knows everything. Rolling Eyes


    To Outlaw: I doubt they will, otherwise they'll end up having to go into roughly 30 minutes overrun to accommodate the ads.

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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Ram Jam on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:08 am

    Outlaw2x4 wrote:Anyone notice Punk had Misawa on his taped up arm last night?

    Thought that was a great gesture by Punk.

    Speaking of which, he's doing an excellent job of walking that fine tweener line. That triple threat on Monday was awesome.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  PeteRoe on Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:22 am

    The Stig wrote:
    'Dub wrote:
    Bradshaw101 wrote:There were no breaks on the US broadcast either.

    I thought that was next week?

    It is, but Bradshaw101 thinks he knows everything. Rolling Eyes


    To Outlaw: I doubt they will, otherwise they'll end up having to go into roughly 30 minutes overrun to accommodate the ads.

    I will look out for the product placement during the show itself.

    That will be fun to see. Wont get to see it tonight though, which sucks as last week was really fun.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:11 pm

    Drat time again...given last years was on this same page I think it's time to downgrade the wrestling aspect of the site...

    Anywsay - WWE just openly referenced David Arquette as champion...WTF! Even in jest, even in WCW, I never saw them wanting to admit that ever happened


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:43 pm

    SD gets Diva pick - Kelly Kelly

    Lose Mickie James and Maria, replace them with Kelly Kelly.....not exactly keeping the in-ring balance there.

    SD gets Big Show
    RAW gets John Morrison
    RAW gets R-Truth
    RAW gets Edge Shocked
    (knew he or Jericho would move, but expected Y2J)
    SD gets Kofi
    SD gets Christian Given his high-profile "free agency" a couple of months back this is a bit of a surprise - keeping him away from Edge or building on him + Slater v Jericho?
    RAW gets Jericho So forget that last comment...


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:02 am

    Supplemental draft

    Raw selects THE GREAT KHALI and RANJIN SINGH.
    SMACKDOWN selects CHAVO GUERRERO
    SMACKDOWN selects CODY RHODES

    RAW selects NATALYA
    SMACKDOWN selects CHRIS MASTERS
    RAW selects EZEKIEL JACKSON
    RAW selects GOLDUST

    SMACKDOWN selects HORNSWOGGLE
    RAW selects JTG x Recinded during the live draft
    SMACKDOWN receives ROSA MENDES
    RAW selects Unified Tag Team Champions THE HART DYNASTY (Tyson Kidd & David Hart Smith)
    SMACKDOWN receives MVP


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Shaun2J on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:43 pm

    Well SmackDown have...nothing.
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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  Garibaldi on Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:17 pm

    My guess is that without ECW they want to use it to "trial" new champs/main eventers.

    Taker is part time
    Kane and Big Show are reliable guys but more often upper card establishers these days
    Punk is in a non-main event stable role at the moment. SES is good but not a champion's stable a la DX, Ministry or Evolution as it stands
    Rey is supposed to be out with his knee injury again soon

    Which means that along with Swagger as champ, there's a lot of space for trying out newer or unproven guys. Most likely candidates you've got:

    Christian
    MVP
    Kofi
    Rhodes
    McIntyre

    If nothing else, this gives a good few months of main event feuds to try out.

    I'm thinking that this may have been triggered by TNA and the aging roster combining to convince Vinnie that newer stars are needed. They've lost HBK, Taker's part-time, Rey has admitted he's only gota couple of years left, Batista's quitting, Edge is injury-prone and nursing his neck...

    There has only really been Punk added to the main event since the emergence of Edge, and only really them, Cena, Orton and Rey in the last decade. The rest of the main event is guys from the Attitude era - HHH, Taker, Show, Kane, Jericho (Edge and Rey even come from then as well). The sooner he starts preparing the ground the better, he probably thionks, especially as TNA are picking up those he doesn't use at alarming rate.


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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  The Ayatollah on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:27 am

    A very average Viewer's Choice Raw...but the last 15 minutes were absolutely tremendous Very Happy , interesting to see what happens next

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    Re: Official Raw thread

    Post  badmanjc on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:29 am

    Did'nt see the NXT angle coming. Impressed how they were allowed to reck the whole joint, will cost vince a few dollars to fix.

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